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Smart thermostat disconnects from new Surfboard due to "intersecting bands?" on G36

  • September 14, 2024
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Greetings! I followed the recommendation for a Surfboard for our smart thermostat (see link).

The thermostat disconnects and reconnects during the day. Even when connected, the connection to the company’s server is lost. Yesterday, the HVAC tech said it’s because the two bands do not run parallel but occasionally intersect. The thermostat doesn’t know what to do since it requires 2.4, so it disconnects. He suggested contacting ARRIS to see if the router can be programmed for parallel signals. Any ideas? Thank you!

 

Best answer by Netopia

@Al the Editor, The G36 broadcasts the Wi-Fi over 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz concurrently with separate SSID out of the box.  There’s no way it can intersect unless you used the same SSID for the 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz.  

 

Just for testing purposes, you can disable the 5 GHz Wi-Fi to get the thermostat working with the 2.4 GHz Wi-Fi network.

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  • The Certified
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  • September 17, 2024

This is the written diagnosis:

Found systems infinity control was operating but not connecting to carriers servers for remote access. Tested with mobile hotspot and confirmed infinity control connected to carrier server without issue. The customers new modem must be preventing access. Mentioned to customer to reach out to there manufacturer of the cable modem to fix the issue. The modem has to have to separate channels 5ghz & 2.4ghz when connecting to Infinity Control as it can only operate through 2.4ghz.


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  • September 17, 2024

What is the model number of your ARRIS device so that we can determine if it has a built-in Wi-Fi.  


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  • The Certified
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  • September 17, 2024

It’s an ARRIS SURFboard Model G36 Wi-Fi Cable Modem, just a few months old. We bought it specifically to serve our iMac, printer, Chromebook, Samsung TV, etc., and the thermostat. It works well for everything but only occasionally with the thermostat.


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Since you are experiencing intermittent connection on thermostat, I would suggest changing the security mode and monitor the performance.

Login to the web portal which is 192.168.0.1.

Once you logged in, select Gateway>Connection>Wi-Fi>select edit for 2.4G and change the security mode as WPAWPA2-PSK (TKIP/AES)


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  • September 21, 2024

Thanks. I did as you suggested. I changed the setting, rebooted the router, and reconnected the thermostat to the WiFi. It verified the connection but will not connect to the thermostat’s server. They blame the router for not having parallel frequency outputs. That doesn’t make sense to me but I’m no expert.


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You have tried with all the possible troubleshooting steps; I would suggest checking with thermostat’s manufacturer for further assistance Since all other devices are working without interruptions.


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  • September 24, 2024

Thank you! I initially tried the manufacturer, and they said go to the installer, who charged us $110 to tell us it’s the router’s fault. We did have one of the installer’s reps tell us “This happens a lot. I don’t know what the problem is.” I’m tired of feeling like a pinball. It’s not that big a deal but—not that we don’t like the router and didn’t need one anyway—we purposely bought this model for the two bands. Oh well.

 

Thanks again!


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  • September 24, 2024

@Al the Editor, The G36 broadcasts the Wi-Fi over 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz concurrently with separate SSID out of the box.  There’s no way it can intersect unless you used the same SSID for the 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz.  

 

Just for testing purposes, you can disable the 5 GHz Wi-Fi to get the thermostat working with the 2.4 GHz Wi-Fi network.


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